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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 1 EPISODE 5 | SUNDAY 18 MAY 2014

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~~ last thoughts on these scenes ~~

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no.  I'm seriously fading here...



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....seething intensity is good too!

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fifi, I think he is trying to find the guilty always as quick as possible, partly because sometimes his personal feelings takes control (this was nasty case, he wanted to catch the guy(s)). But yeah, it may seems that he forgot that there is a victim..

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onwards!

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Whimsy - absolutely. A defense mechanism

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Oh guys I really need to go, clock has something against me and time is flying! But this is totally worth of little less sleep time, it's always interesting what you think about these eps and read you comments. This was fun as always! Thank you all, and good night! :)

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Scenes 41 - 49 (15 mins)

Scene 41 (29.32 - 29.44)

Jack shows Martha footage of forensics finding Anna's phone (GPS tracked) and a pair of blood-stained blue woollen gloves in a bin in the park.

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Scene 42 (29.45- 30.11)

Jack pins a photo of Carrie and Anna. taken from Anna's phone, on the crime board, It shows Carrie wearing the blue woollen gloves. forensics show the blood matches Anna's making Carrie a suspect in Anna's stabbing.

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Scene 43 (30.12 - 30.38    )

Charlie tells Jack and Martha that Birmingham police had recovered a message on Nathan Cole's laptop that he tried to delete that has nude photos of Anna and Carrie and also found mention of a meeting that night, although there was no address. The message was sent from Matt Lowell's laptop. Anna is safe for the night in hospital, but Martha says they need to get hold of Carrie because she is in danger.

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Scene 44 (30.39 - 30.56  )

Jack and Charlie come to Martha's office to say they cannot find Carrie, her mobile is off and her foster parents have not seen her since 4pm. Jack asks should they go and talk to Max, Martha replies "let's put the screws on him."

 

Scene 45 (30.57 -31.48)

Martha and Jack interview Max. jack tells him they know about the email from his computer, the group he is involved in and the meeting that night. Max is still only responding with "no comment". Both Jack and Martha become heated.

Jack "Stop wasting my time Max, where's the meeting?"

Martha  "And where is Carrie? what is going to happen tonight?"

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Scene 46 (31.49 - 34.38)

Martha interviews Max.

"Let me tell you something, Anna was eight weeks pregnant, when she was stabbed. She has suffered a miscarriage,  she is underage. She was also gang raped by four different men, when of which is a convicted paedophile. And there are other girls that our out there, right now, tonight,  Max, tonight, that are about to go through this. Now listen to me, this is in your hands, you have already FUCKED UP."

Max begins talking, telling Martha he never took Jason to work, that he told him to go and pick Anna up from the park and take her to A&E and he had no idea what Jason was doing, he just picked the girls up and dropped them off. Martha does not believe he didn't know what was happening. He said he thought his brother was having an affair and they were all of age. Martha asks why he didn't tackle his brother when he found out Anna's age. He said he dropped them off different places each time , Jason has a deal with a management company, and doesn't know where they will be tonight.

Cuts to earlier clip of Jason at work and Jason in interview room, smiling.

 

Scene 47 (34.39 - 35.03 )

Martha brings a lists of possible venues Jason and the gang use into the main office telling Charlie and Jack they are definitely dealing with a grooming gang. Charlie says she'll get the nearest car to Jason's house to see if he already left and Jack will contact the management company to see if there are any empty offices available.

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Scene 48 ( 35.04  - 35.59 )

Martha speaks to Anna in hospital, Sean is also there. Martha tells her she knows about Jason. Anna keeps repeating that ­­it is her (own) fault. She tells Martha they were always taken to different empty offices every time and she doesn't know where they will be that night.

 

Scene 49 (36.00 - 36.06)

Jack tells Martha and Charlie he has checked with Jason's management company, there is only one empty office block available that night.

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One last thought: In last scene, what Martha says about giving the second look (change) to the people was amazing. I wonder did she came up with that or was it in the script. Anyway, it was beautifully said.

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goodnight Jozie.  thanks for coming, as always love your insights.  have some sweet Jack dreams. wink



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(I jumped ahead a bit sorry, but I will go now bye! :))

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You too Whimsy ;)

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the true hideousness of the crime is fully realised in these scenes. So harrowing and hard to talk about. found it really difficult doing the scene breakdowns for this episode.

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Well said Jozie...and goodnight!

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Dreams about Jacks bum... Ok I stop now :D (It is always hard to leave here)

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Good night Jozie. 



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goodnight dear Jozie! thank you for joining in again! sweet dreams

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Nighty night to you all! Enjoy the rest of the chat I will read your comments tomorrow about after 8 hours from now when I'm having a coffee break!:)

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Night night, Jozie. Sweet Jack dreams.

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Martha's interview with max... powerful lines, even moreso because they were improvised. Fay Ripley, amazing.

"Let me tell you something, Anna was eight weeks pregnant, when she was stabbed. She has suffered a miscarriage, she is underage. She was also gang raped by four different men, when of which is a convicted paedophile. And there are other girls that our out there, right now, tonight, Max, tonight, that are about to go through this. Now listen to me, this is in your hands, you have already FUCKED UP."

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the only things I have to say about these scenes is I have a better respect for Martha (& Fay) in these.  She shows that good police work does sometimes require bending the rules (taking a page from Jack's book), she shows that there is an appropriate time to push on a suspect, she really let's it rip with her solo interview with Max.  What she has, that Jack still needs to work on if he's going to eventually have her job, is a bit of perspective.  She keeps the big picture in mind, as Kat would be happy about, she is mindful of procedure and what will be needed later to close the case.  She's a good mentor for Jack.



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everyone has gone a bit quiet.....

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It's interesting to me that she gives him this speech knowing that he is involved. It's an impassioned speech but if he's really involved in this I don't think he would find it moving.  You'd have to be pretty sick and cold to be involved in something like this knowingly. 



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well said whimsy

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Martha's best bits were always in the interview room..and I agree that she's totally got it here! At this point it definately picks up the pace...despite Jack's earlier belief that Sean was somehow involved, you can tell that they know they've hit the trail.

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