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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 2 | SUNDAY 5 OCTOBER 2014

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*** 2 MINS LEFT on these scenes ***

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oh to be sure domino.  Jack's still gnawing at his bone.  He's just not being as vocal about it. 

Yes, Martha's little talk in the car the night before probably helped clear his head a bit.  He was so involved, I don't think he saw how his behaviour was affecting Charlie.



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For Jack it is totally looking like his view of Saul as the culprit is justified

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TJ!!!!!! 



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RPLovesIpswich wrote:

For Jack it is totally looking like his view of Saul as the culprit is justified


 and maybe that's another reason he's calmed down about it.  he feels a bit of vindication, in the eyes of the rest of the team.



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it does seem like things are pointing towards Saul... but I still knew it wasn't him ...

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last thoughts before moving on?

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Too obvious. Saul was too obvious.

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I agree totally TJ!

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Saul was just too easy. I was 100% sure it wasn't him. Though they have had a few easy ones turn out to be the culprit.



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ok next up!

Scenes 8 - 16 (15 mins)

Scene 8 ( 04.32 - 05.00 )

Jack goes to the hostel to speak to Saul, but Sadie who answers the door, tells him he is not there and has not come back since yesterday. When Jack asks her where she thinks Saul may be, she replies the only place she can think of is his Nan's grave. Jack tells her to go back inside and shut the door.

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Scene 9 ( 05.01  - 05.25 )

Jack reports back to Martha, he has checked Saul's grandmother's grave but he is not there. He has put a high alert out to all the bus, railway and underground stations and mental health institutions.

(shot of Saul's photo on Suspects board, blood on his hands)

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Scene 10 ( 05.26  - 06.42 )

Charlie visits Carol and Derek Collins at home but Carol won't let her in. When questioned she said she was at home last night looking after he Dad. Charlie says she can see Carol has been drinking and if she needs help looking after her Dad it is there. Carol becomes irate and tells her to f*** off.

 

Scene 11 ( 06.43 - 07.10 )

Charlie plays Jack and Martha CCTV footage of outside the Collins' house last night. It shows Derek in a distressed state wandering around outside the front of the house and a neighbour arriving to help until Carol came home this morning.

 

Scene 12 ( 07.11  - 07.41 )

In Martha's office Charlie tells Martha and Jack that Carol's call data reveals she left Michael an abusive message before he was attacked: " next time I see you I am going to rip your f***ing head off" and some voicemails from Michael trying to get hold of her as he was driving to London.

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Scene 13 ( 07.42 - 08.43  )

Charlie goes back to the Collins house. When Carol doesn't answer and she sees Derek left on his own through the window she breaks in. She notices a strong smell of bleach in the hallway, but Derek says it is because he had an accident and Carol had to clean up. Jack arrives, and also notices the bleach smell, he suggest they have a look in the kitchen while Carol is not around in case she is trying to get rid of stuff.

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Scene 14 ( 8.44 - 8.56 )

Jack finds a crack pipe in the kitchen.

 

Scene 15 ( 08.57 - 09.12 )

In Martha's office Charlie tells Jack and Martha she has found messages and voicemails from Carol to a drug dealer known to them, Jack knows the squat where he lives.

 

Scene 16 (  09.13 - 09.35  )

Jack and Charlie visit the squat and find Carol there. Charlie arrests Carol for expected possession of controlled drugs.

 



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I would've been soooo disappointed if it had turned out to be Saul....

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Plus, I totally didn't want it to be him.  Me too Fifi. 



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Derek Collins broke my heart into a million pieces.  cry



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I said it last chat, as soon as Jack mentioned the red knickers and Saul obviously hadn't known that's what they were, I'd ruled out Saul. But as everyone has said, it really would have been disappointing if it turned out to be him.  It was too obvious a choice.



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So.. these scenes...

 

Jack is usually so canny with his gut instinct... we don't know at this point of course but his concern for Sadie, advising her to get indoors, protecting her from Saul, couldn't be further from the truth!

Also... anyone else notice how Martha responds to Jack ? she doesn't say anything just looks at him in a way that shows she is concerned with his obsession with Saul....

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There are no good answers for folks like Derek. Heart-breaking, but then Saul hurts my heart too.

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Jack is slipping. Depending too much on his 'gut instinct' and not enough on police work. We are seeing the slide downward beginning here.

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Charlie is really becoming very competent and confident when she is by herself.
This new story with Carol adds yet another dimension to the story.

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Did anyone else notice in scene 12 how Jack (Damien) is desperate to say something? (you can see it in the screencap) I would love to see what they don't show from these scenes.....

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yes TJ, both troubling.  

on first viewing I was a bit miffed that the case took on a different direction.  I'd gotten so invested in the characters on part 1... but that's how real life works, they have to follow the leads...



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Yes! I love Charlie.

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Charlie is really becoming very competent and confident when she is by herself.
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Despite the Saul obsession, Jack is still doing good detectiving... he found the crack pipe in the kitchen, but is he open to the idea of other suspects?

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yes fifi, he kept trying to interject!  But I guess in light of what Charlie was saying, he decided it wasn't relevant anymore?



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